Guy playing live with €150 wireless MIDI glove

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What an absolute piece of hippie turd! Does he think its the 80ties or something. "I do these wacky waves with my hand and it controls the filter cutoff and makes my mother scream in the audience..."
 

This is a cool toy but he should use it for cooler stuff than just controlling the 303's in ReBirth on that laptop. :)
 

Yeah, seriously, I mean, he's got 11 parameters of output (6DOF + 5 flex sensors) and as far as I can tell he's only controlling cutoff and resonance, and not even that well. And to top it off he's still occasionally pressing keys on the keyboard - to do what, who knows?!
 

Music seems like just a small example of what these "gloves" could do...I'm thinking more along the lines of the gesture-controlled computer interface Tom Cruise's character Anderton used in "Minority Report" (I hear the US military is already developing a prototype). Remote medicine and surgery are other possibilities, and with tactile feedback they'd make a great 3-D control for hazmat cleanup, bomb defusers, etc.
 

The idea is really cool, but what he's doing with it is basically turning on and off the bass track. If it's about him, then i rather go on.
You can do that with a midi controller full of buttons and knobs. I thought the whole point is so you can watch the audience instead of the screen and play with the mouse.
If it isn't about him, then it'd be cool to do some effects that have X/Y and possibly assign other parameters to different directions/ movements to do things that can't be done with fingers: like turning 3+ knobs simultaneously.
 

I can see a great tool for my "Black and White 2" game! :o)

And imagine other great use such as machine manipulations and 3D/architecture exploration!

Finally something we see on big movie screen comes to live...
 

haven't people been playing around with gloves and hand gesture recognition/music controllers for quite a few years now...?

its cool that its cheap and wireless - but the principle is a bit tired.
 

Indeed, I have to agree with the comments above... The idea is good but is certainly not very well exploited here. No matter how sensitive the glove is, you have to have a way of selecting sound loop samples, channels, start/stop, channel volume, pitch and so on. He should have put a little bit more time at developing his gadget before showing it to the world. Then, I may have been impressed. Right now, I'm not. Potential is there but that thing really needs some improvements. Probably needs some visual interface other than a computer screen. Laser image projected on a wall would be cool.
 

three accelerometers: Track-left-right, scene up down and launch, using mackie control emulation in Ableton Live... Gimme 1 hour with that thing...I'll friggin... Argh..
But other than that, this video is from a live performance... don't knock him for not using all params on his own controller at the same time.
 

Those of you who can find nothing in this but another target to disparage deserve to have nothing new for the rest of your lives, save what you create yourselves. Is your music/creation SO startlingly original that we'd barely be able to comprehend it if we were to hear/see it? If so, why don't you bless the world with the genius that allows you such excoriating insight into the shortcomings of this guy's project?

As far as I can tell, this gentleman is attempting to contribute something to the world other than semi-anonymous criticism. How about getting behind him, or at least offering something constructive, instead of just bloviating and self-congratulating yourselves about about what it isn't.

Pathetic, really.
 

I think its great. He made something imperfect but cool nonetheless on his own. Lets keep in mind that this blogger powered site is owned by google, a company that has made a fortune off of beta-quality products - waiting for something to be perfected nowadays just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. If you've got an idea, run with it - maybe other people will get involved. Everyone who is critical should write the guy and help out!

Of course I'm responsbile for all kinds of bad techno so i'm biased.
 

a few words about the glove project:

As we said on CDM, this project is far from being complete, and the live performance shown in the video is the first "public" test of the device, so we didn't have the time to focus on every aspect of the performance (we released the first beta of the MIDI driver a few weeks before the gig).
This is, somehow, a "new instrument", so we're still learning how to use it at its best.
Moreover, our efforts are aimed at creating a easy to use, ultra-low power and low cost hardware/software platform, starting from hardware design of the nodes to the multiplatform drivers implementation and testing.
We're working on a complex hardware/software solution which enables multiple low-power (and low cost!) wireless sensor nodes (e.g. two gloves, IMU units and other analog or digital spi-interfaced sensors) to be used at the same time in a wireless/wired networked environment, and the whole thing is not oly music-related. We're working on 3d-engines interaction, mouse emulation (this means, for example, that the current glove prototype can be used to play any 3d-first-person games like Quake without the need of a keyboard or a mouse... and, believe me, it's really really cool :) ), multi-protocol support (MIDI, OSC, etc), gesture recognition, and so on. There is still a lot of work to do, and a big part of the Microelectronics Research Lab here at the University of Bologna is focusing on those issues.
In the next months (probably by the end of feb) we're going to release for free download a tool called SeNIE (Sensor Network Integration Environment), which is a multiplatform software solution aimed at creating and managing sensor networks (both in the network topology and sensor data realtime processing), with a "building blocks" style GUI and multiple i/o support (e.g. from network, serial port, bluetooth, usb, ...). The best is yet to come...

cheers
Vincenzo Pacella (shaduz)
Michele Sama (-RAX-)
 

There's also the P5 glove which costs about 15 dollars on Ebay. Here's a VST effect that I made which can be controlled by the glove: http://www.whitenoiseaudio.com/memory/
 

The P5 is not so a bad idea, we use it for our first tests in the 3dID project. It is really low-cost, and it handles both fingers and movement with and infrared sensor.

On the other hand, the infrared receiver is too big so to be used a big desk is required, the glove is cabled so movement are limited and fingers movement are also limited by the plastic structure. After these consideration we (me and ShaduZ) choose to build our one, wireless and bend-sensors based.
But for starting test P5 is a really good choice!

The MEMORY effect you build is really cool. How do you loopback? I mean, with fingers as a digital ON/OFF controller or with hand movements? Could you explain a little more how glove input is used into your Memory system?

Some days ago i think about a glove-based video control that allows frames to frames controls that could be a similar function, but based on hand rotation.
 

Hey -rax-,

With Memory, you lower your index finger to start the looping. The glove's X position (ie, left/right plane) controls the size of the looping buffer. The size also snaps to tempo related sizes. If you lower your middle finger you can cause the loop to start looping in reverse. Holding in your thumb causes the filter to kick in and the Y position (up/down plane) controls the cutoff of the filter. I think that's it. I thought about being able to control pitch too and other things, but controlling too many variables at once becomes very difficult to do in a live performance. 2-4 variables controlled in a way that the audience can make sense of what you are doing is ideal imo.

The P5 does have a few draw backs. The angular sensing does not work very well and the XYZ controls are not terribly accurate. Also it only updates at 60 hz which might be too slow for some kinds of uses. But the finger sensors are fairly accurate and for some uses it can be good. I got mine for $12, so you can't beat that (also the programming SDK is pretty easy). I'm definately interested in seeing what you guys do with your glove.
 

Hey, fine !! you are in a cool way to shorten latency between sound and brain. Here are my hopes:
Continue to work on a cheap digital glove for everybody, and let musicians, architects, gamers find their own use. Just build your glove with a universal interface so programmers could develop drivers for any program on any system.
Work hard on resolution, data rate, full spatial localisation (I mean relative localization of one hand against other as absolute localization refering to a fixed object could be very difficult to maintain for a live musical performance). Quickly build a low cost model to sell and get money to improve more professionnal model.
 

its cool that its cheap and wireless - but the principle is a bit tired.
# posted by Anonymous : 8:42 AM


If EVERYONE was using gloves then it would be a bit tired.

That comments just goes to show that you are a part of the generation that is completely based in the novety factor of life.

Do us all a favour and get bored witht he novety of life and kill yourself.

The guy is contributing something other than cynicism and an 'OMG Im so bored' attitude.
 

PLEASE READ THIS!
Hi everyone....(rude and kind people).
This is the very first time I read and write some comments on this website.

Guess what....I just came back from my own Midi Glove-working progress- demonstration.
It was not such a dancing event, as in the video shown with shaduz.
I had to demonstrate my work to a kind of "academic" audience.And...my pair of gloves are not wireless yet.

To begin with, I want to say that it is the first time I see Shaduz's midi glove project on the web and that I know nothing else about him.
What really made me want to write something about this guy's work, was the unforgivable and very {....} way some "anonymus" and boring people wrote.
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!
He is only 24, definetally very exciting about his research and promissing for his own future work!
The fact that he choose that way to demonstrate his research it is only a matter of taste and nobody can start criticising like that.
Really, I don't care how many parameters he's controlling or what kind of software he's controlling or even what kind of music he chooses.
The important thing to talk about such works is the innovative thinking of some people like shaduz and the thetricality they offer to electronic music performance. Let aside the huge amount of research, the countless hours of making that thing to work and who knows what else. And you know what else? Some time ago we could only watch these kind of things in the basement of a university or any other "museum" lab. It is only a possitive move to take these research outcomes and acomplishes to other spaces and art-platforms.

If you anonymus people have something more interesting to say, or even better to show us, then go ahead and do so!
You have no right what so ever, to be so hard with a young man who is trying to get read of the usual and tired performance of electronic music.
I got really ungry with you rude, and possibly egocentric boring, judges.

LET IT FLOW..............
P.S >sorry for posting an essay-comment
 

everybody relax and give credit the first midi glove kid, eric singer. jesus christ, it's like people were born yesterday, do some research. The Wireless MIDI glove was already created by Eric Singer in 1999 who built upon the idea of midi triggers, which is old as day. This kids version looks friggan horrible compared to erics and I agree with all the cutoff/resonance comments, he's doing nothing worthy of it being on his hand - this seems a bit after the fact, dont you agree? Stop blowing his head up, you can make this for $50, just ask eric, he's totally reachable and willing to share his genius.

Wireless MIDI Glove with live video of it working (1999) - http://ericsinger.com/workprojects.htm